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How to Spot a Cop-NARC Trying To Infiltrate Your Group...?

  Now we had 1 nark down in South Florida a while ago, We shall call him
 "Rocky Raccoon" Mid 30's WM,  business card says movie video & sound
  company. Now he just got back to Florida after being gone awhile, He just 
   got here & knows no one, but yet he has a local business..?

 

     1st Rule Of Thumb Is Simple!   Go with Your First Gut Feeling,  It's Usually Right On The Money.

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Now we had 1 nark down here in South Florida a while ago, We shall call him Rocky Raccoon, Mid 30's WM,  business card says  movie video & sound company, just got back to Florida after being gone awhile, He just got here & knows no one, but yet he has a local business?? 

In the period of 10 days here was around, he "Popped In" on one of the local college NORML Groups,  Then he "Popped In" to the local Florida CAN groups, Where I met him,  At that meeting was a bunch of the state activist for Florida CAN, 1st meeting wants to know what we consider is a "Valid Medical Patient". Wants to buy some weed, which of course everyone said NO! then the next few days always emailing me & the others, he even came over to my house to smoke some of the good stuff, 

So we are just sitting around sparking up a couple bowls of Amsterdam's finest! & talking back & fourth with my radio on at a reasonable level, we could easily talk over the radio, Then he offers up a $80 dollar CASH Donation "To The Cause", with a nice little sly wink from him, OH Chris turn down the radio & tell me about your local group of medical patients! "How" do you help them? Do you sell them medicine? Can I "Get Some Medicine?" 

I am just sitting there smiling back at him, an occasional nod of the head, A real soft mumble! & A BIG smile on my Face! He tried his dammnest to get me to" Verbalize" Something Illegal! The ONLY Time that I raised my voice load enough to where it would be record able was when I said very clearly! I DO NOT SELL POT! I DO NOT GROW POT! & I DO NOT MAIL POT! & The fact that he asked me to turn down the radio AFTER we had already been talking for 20 mins without any problem's Tells me he was WIRED!

 Remember his Supposed Sound & Video Company, after a few minutes after the "turn down the radio" bit, a few of my local medical patients group pop in, & all of a sudden he remembers a meeting & splits as soon as he see's them show up, After that I never heard from him again! & I put his Nice $80 Donation to good use! Bought some medicine to give away for FREE to my local patients group! Medicine always the best when its FREE! & then he goes up to Melbourne Florida to meet all the state big wigs in the Florida CAN Network!

                He was only around South Florida for about 2 weeks or so, 
          & In that time he met with just about every activist in the state! 

                                  & Did NOT get crap on any of us! 

 Do we know for 100% sure that Rocky Raccoon is a Nark! NO! But my 30+  years of Experience running circles around them, Tells Me! That I do not want this person. ANYWHERE near me or my sick medical patients! 

         But You Good Folks Be Your Own Judge...?  

               & Draw Your Own Conclusions!

                     All the Facts Are Here! 

        Only The Names Have Been Changed To Protect The Guilty!

 



Of course you know that any nark worth its badge will lie to you if you ask
it if it's a nark. 

If the nark is good at its job, you won't be able to tell it's a nark --even _after_ you're busted. 

HOWEVER: you should be concerned about people who ask to see your grow room or ask you to perform illegal acts such as
1. scoring drugs for them.
2. telling them from whom they can score drugs.

Be concerned if the person seems unusually assertive or pushy. If the person seems to know how to manipulate you into saying incriminating things, or asks too many questions... be wary. If the person makes you nervous: bail out -- at worst you're being overcautious, at best you preserved your freedom.

You should know that narks *are* allowed to injest illegal drugs, so just because some guy smokes a doob' w/ you, it doesn't mean he's "cool". 

There is a special case, with LSD (and presumably other psychotomimetics). It has been suggested that if someone asks you for acid and you think he might be a nark, tell him to "Open your mouth and close your eyes." The idea is that
someone who wants to trip, and trusts you enough to ask you to supply them, should trust you enough to provide them with the appropriate dosage. But, so the theory goes, a nark, knowing full well the ego bending (or disassociative
or psychotomimetic-- pick your fave term) effect of LSD will refuse the OYM&CYE offer because he fears the possible loss of his self- censorship and the subsequent possibility of outing himself. 

There is some validity to this (for instance I'd be very surprised if a nark would ever knowingly use LSD and xtc at the same time...) but there are some major holes, too. In the case of LSD, the nark could simply absent himself from the scene before the acid kicks in, or he could surreptitiously counter-dose himself with thorazine, a drug guaranteed to short circuit acid trips [although the effects of thorazine should be fairly easy to discern]. 

Some other *possible* tip-offs include can include the wearing of fannypacks or the presence of a small group of people dressed in very similar clothing, moving as a unit. For instance, at Weedstock 92, they found a whole *nest* of
narks. They looked like regular hempsters -- one even carried a hemp stalk walking stick (confiscated, no doubt, from some hapless WOD victim). 

These narks initially ousted themselves by their incessant solicitation at the event: going from campsite to campsite asking for shrooms, doses and herb. Eventually one of the narks was spotted by a guy who'd been busted by him in
another state. The organizers soon cordoned off these soulless, contemptible, professional liars and confronted them, which was when their "uniform" became apparent: several (3,4?) were wearing Arab-style headdress, and they were the
only ones at the event so dressed. They moved as a group, although their separation was btw 5~20 meters so the group was difficult to discern. Apparently the headgear made it easier for the DEA spotters across the valley to keep them under watch. They all wore fannypacks to, I believe. 

As the first group of narks was isolated, their backup materialized out of nowhere, although to the casual observer they appeared to be interested gawkers. They too were largely identifiable by a common apparel style, although it was a little more subtle. One guy in particular, christened "the Snake", was truly amazing-- he pulled off three or four costume changes in the span of about 10 minutes! It seemed like every time someone blinked, he'd be in a different style of dress; it took hours to track and eject him, I believe. So
be concerned about someone with multiple pairs of sunglasses, T-shirts, and hats.

At another event, I witnessed a similar set of characteristics under slightly different conditions: the Narks ousted themselves immediately upon arrival, on purpose. I guess they didn't want to have to bust anyone. They were all dressed essentially the same, carried fanny packs, wore the same color shirts,
hats and sunglasses and moved as an amorphous unit. 

Unfortunately, this advice is mostly good only for public events, not small, private encounters. 

There is another type of nark that's a bitch to smoke out: the Babe. (called the honey trap in spy novels). Here's the secret of the honey trap: there aren't very many women involved in the scene, so women are welcomed fairly easily and unquestioningly; stereotypically beautiful women even more so. It's a major problem to deal with because it fucks up the sociology of the group. However, there tends to be a correlation between the Babe's apparent "availability" and 
"susceptibility" and Narcness. If the female seems to be unattached and appears to be seriously wasted and/or sexually available, but moves from group to group -- especially if she implies scoring drugs will yield sexual favors --watch out. I totally hate the honey trap, it's extremely effective, and dealing


with it can very easily generate lots of misogynist fallout. I imagine the best way to deal w/ this one is to look for her backup -- if you can find it -- and to monitor a "wasted" woman very carefully, but very surreptitiously
and try to determine if she's really as wasted as she appears. lotsa luck. If you're concerned, the best bet is to split from her presence. The honey trap is evil. But, Please, don't _assume_ that women are narks. 

Unfortunately, good narks know all about this stuff and won't make mistakes. And even more unfortunately, regular people can seem like narks if you're paranoid or they're clueless fools.

Of course, under NO circumstance should you ever threaten or harm a person you suspect of Being A NARC!. EVER. bad karma, bad move, ugly scene. While Narks are subhuman scum unworthy to dine on the contents of your bowels, you will get in major league trouble for fucking w/ them. Let them grow old and die of natural causes without any intervention or harm from you and trust God to deal with them in his own time. (If there's any justice in the universe they'll be reincarnated as veal calves or drug-test monkeys.)

That's the tactics. The strategy is to keep your nose clean, don't deal, traffic, or conspire, or grow. 

Any input from the clueful?